*2016 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates




Just BC said:
Britain was just as essential in winning WWII as the U.S. was at least in the European theatre.

The War eventually ended because Truman had the balls to drop the bomb, something that Roosevelt may not have done.

Without the US intervention, it's unsure wether or not the nazis could have been beaten. Britain was essential, yes. But without the Russians, Hitler would have crushed England. England was able to resist because Hitler made the dramatic mistake to fight both in England and Russia at the same time.
The british barely had enough to resist, they would never had stepped foot on the continent without the US. Aand without the Western Front, Hitler could have been able to turn the table on the Eastern Front. Without Operation Overlord mobilising a big part of the nazi troops, these troops could have been used by the nazis to resist to Operation Bagration...
As long as he was focused on fighting one enemy after the other, Hitler was winning. When he became to be greedy and tried to fight several ennemis at once, he started to lose.

Ok, Truman had the balls to drop the nuke, which, I think, was the right decision. But even thought the japanese were still fighting, they had already lost the war long ago. Just like the German had lost the war long before MAy 8th, even thought Hitler refused to suurender and ordered that every german able ot hold a gun to fight against the russians to the death...
Roosevelt had to face Pearl Harbour, he had to take the decision wether or not to get the US involved in the War with the nazis. That's quite big for a man who couldn't stand on his legs...
Somy point is, if Roosevelt could do all that with the disease he had I guess Hillary will be able to hold office despite her pneumonia. But even if she can't, isn't that the point of electing the vice president with the president, so that the vice-president can hold office when the president can't ?
 
Trump challenges Clinton to debate without a moderator




Complaining about being treated unfairly by the moderators before the presidential debates with Hillary Clinton even begin, Republican nominee Donald Trump told CNBC on Monday the system was being "rigged."

"I think we should have a debate with no moderator, just Hillary and I sitting there talking," Trump offered on "Squawk Box," predicting he's going to be "treated very, very unfairly."

Making his case, Trump said debate moderators will try to be extra tough, because of the criticism that NBC's Matt Lauer was too "easy on me," during the network's Commander-In-Chief Forum last week.

"Well, [Lauer] wasn't. I thought he was very professional. I have to be honest, I think he's been treated very unfairly," Trump added, in reference to the NBC forum, during which the candidates were interviewed separately on stage one right after the other.

"Now the new person is going to try to really be hard on Trump to show the establishment what he can do," Trump argued. "They are gaming the system so that when I go into the debate [with Clinton] I'm going to be treated very, very unfairly by the moderators."

Trump invoked Bobby Knight, the legendary Indiana University basketball coach, to make his point. Trump said Knight, a supporter of the billionaire's candidacy, used to berate the referees all game to try to get them to award favorable calls.

Critics blasted Lauer like Knight did the referees, in hopes of swaying the moderators to be harder on him at the debates, Trump said.

"I think the system is being rigged so it's going to be a very unfair debate," he added. "I think, maybe we should have no moderator, and let Hillary and I sit there and just debate."

Hillary Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said the Democratic nominee was looking forward to the debates as an "important proving ground" for anyone who wanted to be president.

"Especially given that Fox has been selected to moderate a debate for the first time ever, it's time for Donald Trump to end his debate shenanigans and formally agree to debate," Fallon said.

The first of three presidential debates will be moderated by NBC's Lester Holt on Sept. 26 at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York. The two other debates will be held next month in St. Louis on Oct. 9 and Las Vegas on Oct. 19.

The Commission on Presidential Debates did not respond to a request for comment.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/12/trump-challenges-clinton-to-debate-without-a-moderator.html

I can't restrain me from noticing that one debate will be moderated by a Fox News host (Chris Wallace) and none will be moderated by a MSNBC moderator.
I alos notice that Trump is always claiming he is a winner but he often complain about how things are unfair to him even before they happen. The truth is he fears he's gonna loose that debate so he's already looking for excuses, for a way to blame others for his loss. The truth is Trump is not a winner., he's just a guy who refuses to acknowlege that he lost, someone who prefers to blame others for his owns failures.


Have you ever asked yourself "Why did Putin endorsed Trump ?". Do you think he endorsed a strong leader who could be a real threat to his ambitions ? No, Putin is smart, he endorsed a weak unexperienced ignorant. He knows that he would have no problem at all to fool him, to manipulate him (Trump) into doing what he (Putin) wants him (Trump) to do.
 
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/12/trump-challenges-clinton-to-debate-without-a-moderator.html

I can't restrain me from noticing that one debate will be moderated by a Fox News host (Chris Wallace) and none will be moderated by a MSNBC moderator.
I alos notice that Trump is always claiming he is a winner but he often complain about how things are unfair to him even before they happen. The truth is he fears he's gonna loose that debate so he's already looking for excuses, for a way to blame others for his loss. The truth is Trump is not a winner., he's just a guy who refuses to acknowlege that he lost, someone who prefers to blame others for his owns failures.


Have you ever asked yourself "Why did Putin endorsed Trump ?". Do you think he endorsed a strong leader who could be a real threat to his ambitions ? No, Putin is smart, he endorsed a weak unexperienced ignorant. He knows that he would have no problem at all to fool him, to manipulate him (Trump) into doing what he (Putin) wants him (Trump) to do.

Chris Wallace is a Fox Network host. His show is on Fox, not Fox News Channel. It is aired later in the day on FNC as a rerun. He is as much of a network host/anchor as Lester Holt and MSNBC are well represented by a NBC anchor. Stop ya bitchin'
 
Have you ever asked yourself "Why did Putin endorsed Trump ?". Do you think he endorsed a strong leader who could be a real threat to his ambitions ? No, Putin is smart, he endorsed a weak unexperienced ignorant. He knows that he would have no problem at all to fool him, to manipulate him (Trump) into doing what he (Putin) wants him (Trump) to do.

Agreed.
He already burned Clinton. She won't be offering him another opportunity to do so again.
But with Trump there's all kinds of potential wiggle room.
 
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/12/trump-challenges-clinton-to-debate-without-a-moderator.html

I can't restrain me from noticing that one debate will be moderated by a Fox News host (Chris Wallace) and none will be moderated by a MSNBC moderator.
I alos notice that Trump is always claiming he is a winner but he often complain about how things are unfair to him even before they happen. The truth is he fears he's gonna loose that debate so he's already looking for excuses, for a way to blame others for his loss. The truth is Trump is not a winner., he's just a guy who refuses to acknowlege that he lost, someone who prefers to blame others for his owns failures.


Have you ever asked yourself "Why did Putin endorsed Trump ?". Do you think he endorsed a strong leader who could be a real threat to his ambitions ? No, Putin is smart, he endorsed a weak unexperienced ignorant. He knows that he would have no problem at all to fool him, to manipulate him (Trump) into doing what he (Putin) wants him (Trump) to do.

Agreed.
He already burned Clinton. She won't be offering him another opportunity to do so again.
But with Trump there's all kinds of potential wiggle room.

lol...put your crack pipes down. :rolleyes:
 

Supafly

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Bronze Member
Trump and Trump Foundation keeps cheating. That's not making anybody "great again". That is plain fraud.


And: Stealing from children? Donald, you go home and b ashamed of yourself.
 
For the sake of the argument, let's say that Trump's foundation were involved in unethical or maybe even illegal practices. They were still conducted under the auspices of the private sector.

Compared to the Clinton Crime Family who have used their political offices to enrich themselves for the past 40 years.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Bro, I guess we are both a little gaga. I mean, we keep discussing politics on a porn forum. That is stupid.

I can say "I'm an Asshat", but what's with you?
 
Yeah, it's a porn forum but it has an awesome politics section. Look at my posts, 90 percent of them since they created the sub forums have been in P&R. I truly come here for the politics, not the porn. There are car forums, music forums where the topic will spill out into politics also.

Politics are a part of life, no matter the forum, venue or situation.
 
It is a credit to FreeOnes that they created the P&R sub forum, not just to separate the madness from the rest but to allow it.

These forums are a lot more interesting than if it were just about porn. The Huff Post needs a porn sub forum.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Yeah, it's a porn forum but it has an awesome politics section. Look at my posts, 90 percent of them since they created the sub forums have been in P&R. I truly come here for the politics, not the porn. There are car forums, music forums where the topic will spill out into politics also.

Politics are a part of life, no matter the forum, venue or situation.

It offends me that I as an Asshat can't even pull your leg.

Shalom.
 
Now Cheeto Jesus supports paid maternity leave and conservatives are on board. He could get conservatives to agree to anything. I swear he could come out and support climate change and conservatives would agree with him
 
Now Cheeto Jesus supports paid maternity leave and conservatives are on board. He could get conservatives to agree to anything. I swear he could come out and support climate change and conservatives would agree with him

No, we are not happy with more entitlements. But we can talk him out of those things if he is elected. Not a chance in hell of dealing with Pantsuit. BTW does it make you feel hip to keep referring to him as "Cheeto Jesus"? Let me help you out with a new one as that is getting tired. And is used by everyone on social media. What about Beaver Pelt Head or a Donwork Orange...
 
No, we are not happy with more entitlements. But we can talk him out of those things if he is elected. Not a chance in hell of dealing with Pantsuit. BTW does it make you feel hip to keep referring to him as "Cheeto Jesus"? Let me help you out with a new one as that is getting tired. And is used by everyone on social media. What about Beaver Pelt Head or a Donwork Orange...

Conservatives can use every name in the book for HRC, like Pantsuit, but as soon as I use a name for Trump it's a problem. Looks like there's a different standard for "libs". Thanks for letting me know. I'll act accordingly from here on out
 
Conservatives can use every name in the book for HRC, like Pantsuit, but as soon as I use a name for Trump it's a problem. Looks like there's a different standard for "libs". Thanks for letting me know. I'll act accordingly from here on out

You can call him whatever you want to call him. I like my suggestions and I also like Baron Von Bonespur.
 
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